{"id":3807,"date":"2015-02-14T12:56:56","date_gmt":"2015-02-14T12:56:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/?p=3807"},"modified":"2024-05-15T22:37:21","modified_gmt":"2024-05-15T22:37:21","slug":"whats-rihannsu-soup","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/2015\/02\/14\/whats-rihannsu-soup\/","title":{"rendered":"What&#8217;s the Rihannsu for &#8220;soup&#8221;?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/Rihannsu_Soup_Ad_Pages_2.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p>If the above (and below) images look a little bizarre, well, they should. They&#8217;re from long-ago German editions of <i>My Enemy, My Ally<\/i> and <i>The Romulan Way<\/i> into which the publisher inserted soup ads.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, really.<\/p>\n<p>The story came up again briefly in <a href=\"http:\/\/markreads.net\/reviews\/2014\/12\/mark-reads-pyramids-part-10\/#IDComment930986989\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a series of posts<\/a> over at the forums at <a href=\"http:\/\/markreads.net\/reviews\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mark Reads,<\/a> and I thought I&#8217;d store the images here now that I&#8217;ve got the scanner seeing sense (short version: disagreement between new printer and old legacy TWAIN driver, never mind the long version, too annoying, solved now).<\/p>\n<p>To quote the original posting:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>.<span style=\"color: #000000;\">..It was in or near this chapter of the German translation [of Terry Pratchett&#8217;s <i>Pyramids<\/i> (&#8220;<i>Pyramiden<\/i>&#8220;) that Peter ran into something that made our conjoint blood run cold: <i>a soup advertisement. <\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Maggi Soups were at that time in some kind of pestilential relationship with Heyne Verlag (then the German publisher of Terry&#8217;s books, BUT NOT FOR LONG), and Maggi had taken to inserting little soup ads <i>into the plots of books Heyne were publishing.<\/i> I knew this because they had stuck one into the middle of the German edition of <i>The Romulan Way<\/i> (a.k.a <i>Die Romulaner<\/i>.* One minute things are normal on the Bridge&#8230; the next minute, Mr. Sulu is wishing he had a nice cup of soup. GOD I wish I was making this up. &#8230;The altered passages were instantly identifiable by page-wide black spacer bars inserted into the text to make them fit into the flow of the printing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">So on the way to the Jungfrau, we picked up this copy of <em>Pyramiden<\/em> as we were passing through Zurich. In our &#8220;base station&#8221; hotel that night in Interlaken Ost, Peter was paging through the book&#8230; and there were the Black Lines. Peter immediately called the Pratchett residence, and Terry was out, but he got Lyn.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Lyn, being a sensible woman, didn&#8217;t <i>believe<\/i> him at first. Because who would dare pull crap like that with Terry? So Peter read the altered text to her, translating as he went. Lyn&#8217;s mouth fell open. She said, &#8220;I&#8217;ll tell Terry when he gets home.&#8221; And when Terry got home, he straightway called Colin the Agent of Doom, and Colin called Heyne, and shortly Terry was not with Heyne any more. AND SERVED THEM RIGHT.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">It was a pleasure to do Terry that service, but a pain in the butt that it had to be done. Seriously: SOUP??<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8230;We no longer have that copy of <i>Pyramiden<\/i>, alas: it was sold long ago at a Discworld convention charity auction. But we still have the Rihannsu books in question, so now you can see what the pages looked like. Behold: one of the more sordid yet somehow mean and small and <i>pitiful<\/i> examples of corporate greed you&#8217;re likely to see.<\/p>\n<p>*I keep thinking the &#8220;a&#8221; in &#8220;Romulaner&#8221; should take an umlaut. &#8230;Never mind.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ETA: an addendum, 3 October 2023: <\/strong>From a German source, <a href=\"https:\/\/gmkeros.wordpress.com\/2011\/09\/02\/terry-pratchett-and-the-maggi-soup-adverts\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">an amusing sidelight on the fallout from the discovery of the soup ads in Terry&#8217;s books.\u00a0<\/a><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/Rihannsu_Soup_Ad_Pages_3.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/Rihannsu_Soup_Ad_Pages_4.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"border-radius: 2px; text-indent: 20px; width: auto; padding: 0px 4px 0px 0px; text-align: center; font: bold 11px\/20px 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; color: #ffffff; background: #bd081c no-repeat scroll 3px 50% \/ 14px 14px; position: absolute; opacity: 1; z-index: 8675309; display: none; cursor: pointer;\">Save<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If the above (and below) images look a little bizarre, well, they should. 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