{"id":4707,"date":"2016-11-12T14:33:13","date_gmt":"2016-11-12T14:33:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/?p=4707"},"modified":"2020-07-26T14:14:09","modified_gmt":"2020-07-26T14:14:09","slug":"ive-thinking-patreon-think","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/2016\/11\/12\/ive-thinking-patreon-think\/","title":{"rendered":"I&#8217;ve been thinking about a Patreon. What do you think?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A little background first.<\/p>\n<p>Over the past few months, on and off, I&#8217;ve been reorganizing the household&#8217;s records-keeping system (which has all too often devolved into variants of the Put It In A Shoebox And Forget About It school of behavior: better than <em>nothing<\/em>, I guess, but not really useful when you need to put your hand on one specific thing in a hurry. As has happened occasionally this last year).<\/p>\n<p>So&#8230; redoing the filing. Woo woo: how glamorous this mad gay whirl of a writer&#8217;s life can become. <em>(Gah.)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Yet one of the more interesting side effects of this situation is that unusual things turn up.<\/p>\n<p>Like this.<\/p>\n<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-4713\" src=\"http:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/small-the-night-the-wine-went-sour.jpg\" alt=\"small-the-night-the-wine-went-sour\" width=\"816\" height=\"1056\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/small-the-night-the-wine-went-sour.jpg 816w, https:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/small-the-night-the-wine-went-sour-232x300.jpg 232w, https:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/small-the-night-the-wine-went-sour-768x994.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/small-the-night-the-wine-went-sour-791x1024.jpg 791w, https:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/small-the-night-the-wine-went-sour-270x350.jpg 270w, https:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/small-the-night-the-wine-went-sour-585x757.jpg 585w, https:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/small-the-night-the-wine-went-sour-800x1035.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 816px) 100vw, 816px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The formatting of the page and the material it&#8217;s typed on tell me that this came out of David Gerrold&#8217;s first-generation &#8220;printer&#8221; &#8212; an IBM Selectric cabled to his original NorthStar computer &#8212; back when I was still working for him just after the publication of <em>The Door Into Fire.<\/em> So: around 1979\/1980ish. The story is not complete, but I know how it ends. I can finish it now. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;Or this. (Coincidentally in the same universe, though older still):<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-4715\" src=\"http:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Ferrigan_and_the_Pooka_map_reduced.jpg\" alt=\"ferrigan_and_the_pooka_map_reduced\" width=\"984\" height=\"743\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Ferrigan_and_the_Pooka_map_reduced.jpg 984w, https:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Ferrigan_and_the_Pooka_map_reduced-300x227.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Ferrigan_and_the_Pooka_map_reduced-768x580.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Ferrigan_and_the_Pooka_map_reduced-350x264.jpg 350w, https:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Ferrigan_and_the_Pooka_map_reduced-585x442.jpg 585w, https:\/\/www.dianeduane.com\/outofambit\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/Ferrigan_and_the_Pooka_map_reduced-800x604.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 984px) 100vw, 984px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>It was 1973 when I drew and watercolored this map &#8212; so, still in nursing school.\u00a0 (You can see I was still in my heavily-Tolkien-influenced period.) And somewhat to my astonishment, in the file folder behind that map is<em> a hundred and forty-one pages of Middle Kingdoms fiction<\/em> that has never been seen by anyone but me: a 30,000+ word novella, complete.<\/p>\n<p>And every time I ran across one of these things I thought, &#8220;There must be some organized way to share this stuff with people.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><em>(And make a little extra living money off it,<\/em> whispers the un-shut-uppable businesswoman-voice in the background.)<\/p>\n<p>And then the idea came creeping in.<\/p>\n<p>There are a lot of creative people I respect who&#8217;ve joined <a href=\"http:\/\/www.patreon.com\/?_ga=1.197502575.1146899467.1478868200\">Patreon.<\/a> Why not me? It&#8217;s worth running the idea up the flagpole, at least.<\/p>\n<p>The idea is that contributions to the Patreon from my side would look like:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Short fiction in new universes<\/li>\n<li>Rare \/ unusual archival material, either in scanned form or transcribed (and sometimes updated)<\/li>\n<li>New works in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youngwizards.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Young Wizards universe,<\/a> particularly in the new-ish <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youngwizards.com\/interim-errantry\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Interim Errantry <\/a>brand, made available for viewing by patrons before they go public in the <a href=\"http:\/\/ebooksdirect.co\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ebooks Direct<\/a> store or for other online sales<\/li>\n<li>Snippets from already-announced works that will be traditionally published: as in Young Wizards book 11 (still untitled) or other new out-of-genre works<\/li>\n<li>A weekly podcast from wherever (I&#8217;ve been looking at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.podomatic.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">PodOMatic<\/a> and it seems like it might be a good fit for me: also it integrates directly with Patreon, which is useful).<\/li>\n<li>And other stuff I haven&#8217;t thought of yet<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Rewards would include things like, well, for example &#8212; at the higher end of rewards &#8212; that map up there. I&#8217;m not sentimental about keeping originals. Copies work fine for me. But who knows, someone else might like to have the thing I actually made. I&#8217;m still looking around to see what the less-expensive level rewards would look like. (For example: high quality reproductions of similar works. Etc etc.)<\/p>\n<p>So here&#8217;s the deal. Would you join my Patreon if I started one?\u00a0 Please use the polling form \/ device here to signal what you think. And please be serious with me here: if you wouldn&#8217;t be able to contribute from the outset, don&#8217;t answer the poll as if you would.<\/p>\n<p>[poll id=&#8221;2&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>Finally, everyone should understand this. I intend to make this work from my end, but if the output in time and energy is not supported by the income at the contributor end, I&#8217;ll kill the Patreon sooner rather than later. All our time is precious, and energy is doubly so; and if mine turns out not to be producing an acceptable return at this end, then that&#8217;ll be that.<\/p>\n<p>Okay? Let me know what you think. And thank you!<\/p>\n<p>ETA: Here&#8217;s Patreon&#8217;s quick-explanation video.<\/p>\n<iframe  id=\"_ytid_79250\"  width=\"1170\" height=\"658\"  data-origwidth=\"1170\" data-origheight=\"658\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/wH-IDF809fQ?enablejsapi=1&autoplay=0&cc_load_policy=0&cc_lang_pref=&iv_load_policy=1&loop=0&rel=1&fs=1&playsinline=0&autohide=2&theme=dark&color=red&controls=1&disablekb=0&\" class=\"__youtube_prefs__  no-lazyload\" title=\"YouTube player\"  allow=\"fullscreen; accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen data-no-lazy=\"1\" data-skipgform_ajax_framebjll=\"\"><\/iframe>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A little background first. 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